Wow - we knew MousePlanet had a
tremendous readership but the response to
the series was amazing even by the numbers we have grown to expect
as the site has grown over the past few months.
Almost without exception, the opinions
expressed in all the notes were very thoughtful, and for me it was of
particular interest to get notes from people who also got a chance to
attend a preview day. I have to say it looks, from the sheer number of
comments we got, like the Walt Disney Company may have to seriously
reconsider some of the choices they made in California Adventure.
I've gone ahead and selected a
representative sample of your comments for this page which was difficult
to do since we had so many great responses.
I've focused on notes that came after the series was completed, and do
note some comments may have been edited a bit only for space or clarity.
In the boxes below, "R" indicates "Reader" -
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Christopher writes: Hey Al... One
thing you didn't mention that struck me on my visit to Downtown
Disney this past weekend is how poorly the plaza area between the
two parks is designed. I thought the DCA entrance juxtaposed with
the Disneyland entrance was horrible... ugly... seemed to take away
some magic from Disneyland. The whole area didn't seem to gel
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One of the things planned for this area, and seen in all the
early concept art, was a large fountain. My hopes were that it
should have been something as exciting as the Epcot one - which has
the huge dancing fountains. Sadly, budgets took their toll here, as
with many other areas in the new park. It could have helped I think.
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Rhonda writes: Hello Al , I
just wanted to tell you I have really been looking forward to your
views on DCA. I appreciated the way you ' told it like it is ' on
DIG updates.
It is really disappointing to plan your
trip with the Disney advertised version and then get there and face
the reality! I still come with the excitement but I also know what
to really expect and look out for.
It is a different experience when you live
out of state and you just get a few days once, or if you're lucky,
twice a year to visit. If the trip is not so enjoyable you can't go
back the next week and try again. Planning is so important to get
the most for your time and money and you provide a lot of help in
that area.
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Thank you for the kind note, Rhonda. You sort of hit it on the
head there as to our goals here at the site - we really work hard to
find out for you what works and what doesn't, so you can get the
most out of your limited time at the parks. Sometimes we take a lot
of heat for it from the die-hards - but the numbers (and e-mails
such as yours) tell us we are on the right track.
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CSM writes: Thanks for the detailed
and balanced review. It makes no sense to me that the Muppets are at
DCA, given the show has already been around for a while. Why not do
something original and launch another franchise. In theory,
Superstar Limo sounds good, but it seems as though the ride has
become a muted bore. I have no first hand experience here, but why
can't they have the limo going at a higher speed for stretches
(without press chasing it).
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I can't imagine, given the response the ride has been getting,
that they will do anything at this point to it. Let's hope they
think of something new for this space in the future.
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Jeff writes: I am always amazed at
how critical you are about Disney. A vast majority of the general
public could care less about the things that you and Mouseplanet Al
both criticize. Remember the problems that Disneyland had when it
first opened. I could only imagine what you would have to say if you
were at Disneyland on July 17, 1955. I'm sure that you would be the
first to have called Disneyland a "flop". I guess the more
fault that you can find in Disney means the more money and fame you
will personally gain writing cynical books. Attendance at the Disney
Parks have never been higher... perhaps Disney IS giving people what
they want despite your views. One example is your dislike of
McDonalds in the parks. I have noticed that most people like the
idea -- would you have been upset with Disney when Sunkist or
Hallmark or some of the many other sponsors first showed up at
Disneyland? Remember by far Disney guest are not Disney fanatics !!
Sure things aren't perfect with the Disney Theme parks.... they
never have been and never will. And, I never will figure out why you
think that you are the expert and know all about the Disney Parks.
Just relax and enjoy the Parks.
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Um, Jeff, you ARE young aren't you?
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Allen writes: It sounds like DCA has
a hellovalot more to do than Disney's Animal Kingdom, even after
that park has been open two years. If you were around the Florida
empire as much as the California one, you'd realize this is nothing
new -- Disney has been building parks this way for over a decade.
The difference is, rather than just have 2 Disney "style"
rides and nothing else, they built a few Disney style rides and
stuffed the rest of DCA with "non-Disney" rides, which is
bound to be a plus.
"Disney's Animal Kingdom" and
"Disney's California Adventure"... They've even used the
naming system before.
Try not to be too harsh on the new park --
nothing will ever compare to Walt's original Magic Kingdom. Even
Walt's own people, in 1971, couldn't create a good copy in Florida,
and it's been all downhill for the past 25 years.
With expectations set properly, it sounds
like a wonderful experience.
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The problem Allen is that the name "Disney" adds one
set of expectations, then the identical pricing and next door
location only adds to that. The sad thing is they know all that, and
still went ahead.
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Michael writes: Just wanted to say
good job on the DCA coverage. It's good for us eastcoasters to be
able to see such detailed, un-whitewashed coverage of what's going
on. You guys know what's important in a Disney theme park and cover
from that perspective. I also wanted to say that the reactions to
Superstar Limo sound a lot like those to Journey into YOUR
Imagination. That it's so bad you HAVE to see it. Sad that's how far
the one sacrosanct Disney dark ride has fallen...
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Thanks Michael for the kind note. I still get the heebee-jeebees
remembering what one webmaster and his wife once told me about how
they were going to cover the parks, they only wanted to be
"nice." What good does that do the readers?
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James writes: This is my first time
sending a response to any of your "articles", so let me
introduce myself. My name is James and I have been visiting this
website for almost three years, I read most of the articles that are
posted by the staff, and needless to say I enjoy visiting and
reading about Disney parks.
What I enjoy most about this site are the
all too rare moments of unbiased criticism by you and various other
members of the staff given on any particular subject, but there are
a few issues I would like to address.
Now, I won't launch into an attack on your
writing style or your opinions, it would be counterproductive and,
lets face it, we don't know each other, but I hope you would be able
to integrate some of the advice that myself and others may give to
you about what we like or dislike about your presentation. Of course
I would not ask you to sacrifice your (many, many, many) negative
opinions about this or that subject, but the sometimes hostile
criticisms you present leave a very disagreeable taste in ones
mouth. It would only reflect that much better on you (if it matters)
by peppering the vicious criticisms with MORE of the positive
reinforcement of what you view as being done right, a little more
yin and yang would go a long, LONG way.
Again, please do not take this as a
personal attack, that's not what's intended, I do enjoy reading your
articles, but I really would like to read through a few of them
without having to scroll past all the angry commentary. I feel that
you truly care about the parks and the company, so I hope that it
can manifest itself in a less roundabout and harsh manner.
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James, your note arrived before the series was finished - and I
think I addressed most of your concerns by the end of it. As you
probably know from being a long time reader, I do make a very
concerted effort in all my critiques to always try to suggest
something that could have been done or improved.
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Don and Stephanie were kind enough to write at various points
during the series: Thank you very much for
the first part of your DCA review. I have been waiting to read your
take on things. Your review confirms what my wife and I have been
thinking all along. Save for the Animation exhibit, there's really
no "Disney" in DCA. Being annual passholders, we have been
hit with offers from various sources to tour the new park and have
refused them all, even for half price. Given recent history, I hold
no hope that any upcoming tweaks will improve the place. What's that
old saying? Fool me once.....???
There are only two ways (well, three, as the Monorail goes through
it) they'll get us into DCA- for free, or if they were to revert
back to the old ticket books and allow you to choose which
attractions you wanted. Since the likelihood of either one happening
is just about nil, we'll be quite content with our single park
Disneyland pass.
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Thanks for the kind words, let's hope they look at this park more
closely in the future and turn it into something that will make you
want to visit. :)
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"S" writes: Thanks for the
dead-on review. I attended the WDI cast member preview and pretty
much agree with all your observations.
FYI - I did eat at Hollywood & Dine and
can fill you in a bit. First off, let me say that I viewed the park
from one of the ECV's, which gives you a whole different
perspective. Entry to the facility and movement within it were
pretty good, though it was quite empty the day I went. The real
downside is, if you are in one of these ECV's or a wheelchair and
have no one with you as a helper, it is impossible to pick up your
food and drink at this type of restaurant.
On the upside - one very observant Cast
Members politely came up to me as I was looking around and trying to
decide what to eat and said she would stay with me to help out with
carrying food and drink. The food is pretty good - I had a basic
cheeseburger and fries - but the prices are ridiculous. The charge
for this little meal was $6.75! Thankfully, they were giving us a
50% discount. My advice to anyone going to the park is eat first!
I'm looking forward to your next
installment and want to let you know that everyone I know at WDI
views MousePlanet as the authority. We learn things at this site
that we didn't know. You also get to say the things we can't say.
Keep up the good work!
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Thank you for the kind note. The one overwhelming complaint I
kept hearing from all the previews was the food prices - even with
the various discounts people were simply outraged. Even with that, I
understand they do not feel they are charging enough. Sigh.
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"M" writes: As usual, your
observations are unbiased and astute. I look forward to the
remaining installments.
I have my doubts that the general public
will respond well to DCA over the long haul, especially at
full-price admission. I don't expect Eisner and company to get it
right every time, but DCA may prove to be their biggest
miscalculation of all.
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Thanks for the kind words. I'm looking forward to having the park
open with the general public in it - then I can really listen to
what they will be saying.
I'm hoping it won't be the same kind of stuff I heard during the
"Light Magic" performances. ;)
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Paul writes: Al - I just finished
reading Part 1 of your review of DCA and I have a quick question
about one of the photos from the Animation Tour. In the shot that
shows the "Drawn to Animation" show I noticed an animated
Turkey in the shot with Mushu, Meeko, and Flit. Do you know if this
was the Turkey that was originally supposed to be in Pocahontas, but
was cut when the story was changed? I think Jim Hill wrote about it
in one of his article's -- I think it was supposed to be voiced by
John Candy.
By the way I'm really enjoying your article
so far. I'm a huge Disney fan and try to keep up with all the latest
Disney news, and I've found that MousePlanet is just one of the best
sites around. And you all seem to share my views on Disney -- and
the way the company is run today. It's nice to know that I'm not the
only one out there who has a problem with what's going on within the
company today.
I live in Florida and have been a Disney
World fan since I was born. I've watched the quality of my favorite
parks diminish over the past ten years and was very dismayed to hear
that the same things have been happening at Disneyland. This year I
took my first trip to Disneyland and just fell in love with the
place. I can't wait to return. But I've been so dismayed at what's
been happening there, and I've been afraid that it can only get
worse. (And my fears seem to be coming to light with DCA.) But I'm
so thankful that there are people like you and the MousePlanet staff
that really get what Disney is supposed to be about - and are
unafraid to say something. Maybe through your efforts we can one day
be proud of the Disney Company again. And maybe even get a new park
as amazing as Tokyo Disney Seas!!
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Thank you, Paul, you are very kind. Yes, that's the turkey from Pocahontas
- it appears in a brief segment discussing how characters sometimes
get dropped or changed during the development of an animated film.
For more info on the turkey, you may want to see if any of your
friends have the deluxe laser disc box set edition of Pocahontas
- this and so much more is detailed in it. Too bad the disappointing
DVD edition of the movie was so bare bones!
I've passed on your notes to the staff here - and I know they
will appreciate your taking the time to send them.
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A Flower St. denizen writes:
Definition of a Pioneer: That guy that's way out front with all the
arrows in his backside. Definition of a Critic: That guy in the back
seat who knows the destination but doesn't know how to drive the
car.
Lighten up, Al! We're all working hard
here, trying to provide the best entertainment we can with the
resources we have. We're not perfect, and but our hearts are in the
right place. How about yours? !
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I think WDI did the best they could, and made a point to say so.
The real problem lies with your bosses... ;)
Let's see what the paying public says, that's where it really
counts.
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"CM" writes: Al, Thanks
for mentioning the great efforts of all of the Cast Members at DCA.
While I know you have been a big critic of the park, it is nice to
see that you acknowledged our efforts to continue Disneylands
tradition of "Over-the-Top" Guest service at DCA.
While I think that many of DCA's Cast
Members realize that our park is not a bona-fide homerun, we do feel
a lot of pride opening up the 8th Disney Theme Park. I look forward
to your review of Paradise Pier as it is my absolute favorite
section of the park. Again, thanks for recognizing us and for what
has been a whole lot of hours, hard work and dedication. As I said
to a friend who is a Disneyland Cast Member, "While we'll never
be better than you, hopefully given a little time, we'll complement
you."
"Thanks for your time and for being
fair, even though if you really don't like DCA!
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Thanks for the note CM - while I ended up liking some areas of
the park, the one that just didn't make the cut (even after three
visits) was Paradise Pier. As you probably read, it just broke my
heart how they dropped the ball there.
One major plus though was the Cast Members such as yourself,
never did I feel I was not getting Disney quality treatment.
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Chris writes: Al, Re: part one of
your DCA review, especially interesting to me were your comments on
the relatively small scale of the elephants in the
"Intolerance"-like entry to the Hollywood Backlot section.
My family recently spent a few days at
Universal Orlando, devoting much of our time to Islands of
Adventure. It struck me there, of course, that the scale of
everything is very large -- especially in the Lost Continent area.
At first, all in my family were duly
impressed. And, in fact, the boys, ages 14 and 11, continued to
appreciate IoA's grand- scale "wow" factor throughout the
trip.
But on our second and thirds treks into the
park, my wife, a DL devotee since childhood, confided to me that she
wasn't all that crazy about IoA. She said it's just too big, noisy,
and in- your- face for her taste. Even though the park wasn't at all
crowded on our visit, she found herself feeling somewhat
claustrophobic, and was often eager to "escape" (a key
word at Universal Orlando) back to the Portofino Bay Hotel's
wonderful and relaxing harbor and pool areas.
This actually got me thinking a bit about
scale. In DL, just about everything is a MINIATURE version of
something else -- the castle, the Matterhorn, Big Thunder's
interpretation of Bryce Canyon, even the entrance to Indy's temple.
But at IoA, the designers seemed to go the opposite way, taking a
generally LARGER-than-life approach to the sets. It certainly works
for IoA (a terrific park, even though my wife found it oppressive),
but I don't think you'd want larger-than-life at DL.
This isn't to say necessarily that things
should also be miniaturized at DCA; I haven't been to the new park
yet, so I couldn't judge in any case. This is simply an observation,
and I raise it as a possibility that smaller-than-life scale might
be appropriate to the whole Disneyland Resort, DCA included. (Then
again, it looks to me as if everything in Downtown Disney is pretty
darn large.)
By the way, I seem to have noticed that the
outside world (i.e., everyone not lurking around these insane DL Web
sites and newsgroups) calls the new park "California
Adventure," not "DCA." This still doesn't roll off
the tongue, but I think it's at least a little better. Personally, I
hate acronyms as the names for ANYTHING.
(I must say, I also find "Islands of
Adventure" to be a crappy name. It's clumsy and, even worse,
generic. I sense that the poor name is really hurting IoA's
performance. Some people I know who were there last spring now can't
even recall the name. "It was this really cool area of
Universal Studios," said one guy. Another said, "Oh, yeah,
Marvel Comics Land -- that was great.").
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One of the things that may have helped your wife feel a little
claustrophobic at IoA may have been the high volume settings on the
background music.
One of my biggest complaints about Universal Studios Hollywood
here is the almost oppressive levels they set for the area music -
in particular in the entry way and up and down the escalators to the
lower area. Visitors to both the Hollywood and Orlando parks seem to
think it's a common problem.
At DCA they did manage to get that detail right - just as with
Disneyland itself. As they used to say at Disney, it's all in the
details.
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Jeffery writes: Dear Al, I had the
opportunity to preview DCA last night at the Club 33 member preview,
which meant we had approximately 2 hours to see the park after
dinner (Rainforest Cafe, abysmal).
Nevertheless, I feel I saw the whole park
with nothing left to do by going on California Soarin' (just a
souped up 2000 version, as you say, of "America the
Beautiful"), the roller coaster (i was disappointed at how
"un" scary it was), "It's tough to be a bug" (I
remember when attractions where placed in one park so it gave you a
reason to travel across the country) and the show at the Hyperion
(very impressed with the surround sound, completely unimpressed with
the show).
I'll be very surprised to see the guest
reactions when the crowds show up and they tell the customers at
2:00 in the afternoon, that "Now that you are out of things to
do, No, you can't spend the rest of your day at Disneyland, you'll
have to buy another ticket!"
But I do have a great idea for the
expansion of DCA once the crowds do appear: A wonderful section of
DCA called "CALIFORNIA MEMORIES" where they have all these
great theme park rides from the past that people remember fondly of
the days when Disneyland was an amusement park with rides and also
some shops and restaurants and not an outdoor mall that happens to
have a few rides:
A skyway attraction, a motor boat cruise, a
submarine ride, a live big band, a country-western vaudeville show
(you could call it the Golden Horseshoe Review), a luau themed
dinner show (you could call it the Tahitian Terrace), a parade with
an actual live band and glockenspiel girls for Christmas (call that
one Fantasy on Parade), a night time parade that amazes the audience
(call that the DCA Electrical Parade), a great stage show (Call them
the Kids of the DCA), and a food facility called "Remember
When" where they serve 50 cent popcorn, 60 cent churros and
$1.50 cokes.
I bet it would be the most popular section of DCA!
Your articles are great!!
Jeffery then followed up: As a
former parking lot employee, I would pass the time of day by
counting how many people came in every 100 cards through the toll
gates. I would almost always end up with 368 people for every 100
cars, so that means 3.68 per car.
I always assumed there was going to be approximately 18,000 parking
spaces available for the two parks. Obviously, that is not now true
as the entire Simba and Pinocchio lots are now for Downtown Disney
parking and the parking structure is also used for employee parking,
which means there are less than 10,000 spaces available for the
parks.
With my estimates, that means that once less than 40,000 people show
up (not counting people walking from nearby hotels and bus
passengers), (and only approximately 20,000 per park), the parking
lots will be full. Since Disneyland alone would often hold 50,000+
on weekends, there is going to be a massive problem almost every day
the parks are open come this summer, if not sooner.
Which leads me to a story from this past weekend. I was meeting
friends at Disneyland at 3:00 on this past Sunday. I was parked in
the structure, and as I was boarding the tram, noticed that there
was a big line up of cars on the overramp. They had just closed the
structure, and my friend called me from his car phone asking where
to park. He said he wouldn't park in Pumba because he has two kids
under 5 and wasn't going to walk because of the lack of tram
service. I told him to park in the Downtown Disney parking lot.
Little did I know that they charge $6 an
hour over 3 hours to a maximum of $30 at the Downtown Disney lot.
Needless to say, he went right into City Hall to complain. They
wouldn't do anything for him the three times he went back in to
complain. I finally sent him back in saying "Why should I be
deprived of a parking space when you have all those Disney employees
in the new park for FREE when I am a paying customer?" That got
them finally to give him free parking.
They have a BIG problem on their hands because I know the new park
didn't have many people in it (they are not filling it with more
than a few thousand people) and Disneyland was by no means very
crowded (it didn't look like more than a 20-25K day.) They have BIG
PROBLEMS! Where do they plan putting all the people who are going to
arrive come February 8th?
One final thought: I think the whole
problem with Disney's parking mistake is that they used Florida as a
model for California. But remember, most people in Florida arrive by
plane and plop down at Disney and use their bus transportation,
which leads to fewer parking spaces needed.
But this also might be a huge plot to give Disney "good
press". Remember when both Epcot and Disney/MGM studios opened,
both their parking lots where notoriously undersized and would fill
every day to capacity early in the morning. They would eventually at
least double the size of both lots. I don't know if they had the
same problem at Animal Kingdom, but I do remember the lot filling to
capacity many times.
Could they be doing the same thing here to get the press that says
how wonderfully they are doing? I wouldn't put it past them! How
many times in a row can they make the SAME mistake?
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Now Jeffery, keep it up and you too will have Paul Pressler
saying nasty things about you to reporters during long lunches. ;)
I think one thing that Disney will quickly find out is just how
uninformed the public is when it comes to finding out DCA is a
separate admission fee, and the same in cost to Disneyland.
Try as they may with the current ad campaign - I think the park's
theme "California Adventure" comes across to people as
something like "New Orleans Square." I keep hearing over
and over from folks, "Look, Disneyland is bigger!" - and
you should see their faces when I correct them and explain it's
another park entirely admission-wise.
As far as the parking - that's probably going to be their
Waterloo - if things continue on the same path they are on now.
Let's hope they get the Pumbaa structure (which they have been
talking about) underway soon.
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Tom writes: Al, I've been reading
your site for as long as I've been on the internet. I remember back
when your site was all text and no pictures. And, the addition of
more writers has truly broadened your approach to all things Disney.
At times I feel like I'm reading the op/ed page of a newspaper. I
can read one column, and then turn right around and read another
column with an entirely different viewpoint. Keep up the good work.
I must also say that your writing has
definitely improved over the years. For awhile there, I stopped
reading the site because it had become too negative. Now, your
approach seems to be a little more sarcastic / tongue in cheek. And,
if you have to be negative, or brutally honest, you back it up with
more facts. I must say, you have become part of my morning ritual.
Now, on to the comments. While I have
enjoyed watching DCA unfold before my eyes on the internet. I still
need to get my fix on what's happening at the "The Original
Disneyland". All the web-writers seem to be focused on the
opening of DCA.
-what's the status on the Frontierland
minor remodel?
-has the new restaurant in Frontierland
opened? How's the food?
-is Star Tours ever going to change films?
-is Rocket Rods dead in the water? (and
good riddance as far as I'm concerned)
-what's the fate of Innoventions?
-is FastPass coming to the Matterhorn? (and
wouldn't that require a major remodel of the queue. I've always felt
they should build a queue house al a Jungle Cruise near the site of
the old Motor Boat cruise and tunnel the track underground to the
Matterhorn.)
Keep those updates coming. (I was just at
the Park during Xmas, and I'm dying to return).
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Tom, thanks for the kind words. Ok, you twisted my arm, so we'll
jump off track here for a bit and answer your Disneyland questions,
but only mind you... because you were so nice. :)
-what's the status on the Frontierland
minor remodel?
Almost done - they are currently finishing the walkways in front
of the area between the Pioneer Mercantile and Golden Horseshoe (and
may even be done by this weekend)
-has the new restaurant in Frontierland
opened? How's the food?
Not yet, but it may be as soon as this weekend also. (Big Thunder
BBQ is now history as of last Sunday I understand.) I hear good
things about the food at the Rancho - let's keep our fingers
crossed.
-is Star Tours ever going to change films?
Probably not as long as Michael Eisner continues to hold firm on
his original licensing deal with George Lucas. Lucas wants more,
Michael is holding his ground. It may take him leaving to change
things.
-is Rocket Rods dead in the water? (and
good riddance as far as I'm concerned)
The "Buzz" is good that it may finally be gone. Let's
hope it won't be "Lightyears" before the replacement is
put in. ;)
-what's the fate of Innoventions?
WDI wants it to become a free DisneyQuest sampler. Eisner and
Pressler adore it as is. So far it is status quo.
-is FastPass coming to the Matterhorn? (and
wouldn't that require a major remodel of the queue. I've always felt
they should build a queue house al a Jungle Cruise near the site of
the old Motor Boat cruise and tunnel the track underground to the
Matterhorn.)
Yes, it's on the way, and they will do the deluxe version of it,
which we detailed a while back in an update. It should be quite well
done.
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Steve writes: Al, As usual Mouse
Planet (DIG) is providing great park information. A couple of
thoughts:
Could MousePlanet have a contest to predict
the date or week that DCA discontinues the free tortillas. You know
this kind of thing will disappear fairly quickly.
At Disneyland, my favorite restaurant is
the Blue Bayou. Wouldn't it have been great to have a restaurant
building inside of Bear Mountain where guests could watch the rafts
go by...
Another candidate for Disneyland Blues, is
the condition of Tarzan's Tree house. It's clear from my visit last
week that no maintenance has gone into the attraction since it
opened. The "trashing the camp" area keeps losing elements
as they wear out from the beating, and the steel drums were full of
water!
Basically in the present condition the attraction should be shut
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Steve, thank you for the kind note. I suspect the tortillas will
be a done deal within the year. I do love the contest idea - we'll
look into it. Maybe we can give away a first prize of dinner for two
at a Mexican restaurant.
Your idea for a restaurant somewhere inside the Grizzly River Run
is brilliant! This is the kind of wonderful Disneyland quality
detail that is sorely missing in the new park.
As far as Tarzan's Treehouse - that's what I expected.
Adventureland as a whole (including the really dismal state of the
Tiki Room) has been blown off in the upkeep budgeting.
But the shops did get a remodel only a few years ago... ;)
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Norbert writes: I enjoy reading your
reviews and I usually agree with them, but I totally have to
disagree with your opinion of the Mondavi Deli! When I had my tour
of the new park, this "attraction" was one of the things
that got me the most upset! Of course I went into the park for free
during it's preview, but considering that each individual will pay
$43 just to see a place like Mondavi Deli, which is just like any
typical deli down the street! On top of that I noticed that they
were selling a peanut butter jelly sandwich for $4!! I could not
believe my eyes. What was probably the cheapest product known to
man, was now a delicatessen.
I liked certain aspects of this new park,
but it still needs a lot of work! I'm sure that Disney will be
facing many problems. If 60% of the attendance at Disneyland are
from Southern California, (being from L.A.) there is no way in hell
that I will pay $43, or any other local, to go back to DCA. Been
there, done that. People will easily forget the good things about
the park, but remember wasting over an hour, standing in line for
some terrible attraction like "Superstar Limo". I already
have a hard time convincing my friends to go with me to Disneyland
just because they feel that it's not worth the admission price. I'm
really outnumbered here. The funny thing is that my friends also
like Disneyland very much. My point is that I don't see a chance
that they would be willing to go to DCA, over and over again, if I
can't even get them to go to a park that they really do like!
Alright, I think I have vented my frustrations enough. Hope you
don't mind! Thanks for your hard work!.
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Thank YOU for your note Norbert - all viewpoints are appreciated!
Any project this big will have things people like or dislike.
What concerns me is how much of the new park's mix of things (from
what I overheard as I visited) was not liked.
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Michael writes: While I'm basically
in agreement with your assessment of the park, I can't help but
notice some contradictions in what you truly want in the park. This
is especially evident in your review of the tortilla and break
making facilities. You imagine what could have been done with the
place, picturing a rethemed teacups and bounce house, but wouldn't
that disappoint you as well? Don't you want more creativity than
rethemed attractions that could be found in Disneyland? I can just
see the complaints you would have against such rides (no doubt about
to be covered in the upcoming paradise pier section) that do not
offer a true variety from Disneyland.
Or are you basically against the entire CA
concept, and would love to see a massive and complete overhaul? You
have consistently complained about the lack of innovation in this
new park, and I definitely side with you on that. But critiquing the
lack of ATMs and bathrooms really comes across as petty, and
especially biased when you should in fact be objective. We all have
our prejudices about DCA, but you constantly turn to Paul Pressler
and Michael Eisner as devils incarnate. These attacks really end up
hurting your more valid observations.
One thing I do find troubling are these apologists who claim that
DCA isn't Disneyland, and therefore the two should never be
compared, especially in regards to sight lines, seeing the outside
world, no berm, etc. That lack of immersion is definitely something
that shouldn't be excused, and I only hope vegetation can hide some
of those eyesores. It's especially bad when you cringe looking at
the park from the outside, when you should be salivating to get in.
Me, I can wait til the write-ins commence (no need to spend my money
on this one)...
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Michael, thank you for your note. Do note that wine-induced
frenzy I was in had me hallucinating what those attractions might
have been. Hopefully I explained it better in the follow up segment
(that kind of stuff happens when you do a series on the fly - as you
are still visiting the park). If they'd just call them exhibits...
;)
As far as my comments about Eisner and Pressler - they are pretty
mild compared to what is really said about them on Flower St. :)
Your last comment about the immersion problems is dead on - it's
one of the things I dislike most about this park. It never really
takes you away from the real world like Disneyland does.
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Shaun writes: Thanks for your
insight on DCA. Your detailed and enriching account of every detail
of the park is so vivid I feel like I'm there walking through the
park with you. Thank God I didn't (and won't) shell out $43.00 (or
is it $45.00?) to "experience" this Disney debacle. This
may sound terrible, but I hope the thing flops so that Eisner /
Pressler will be forced to do it the way it should have been done
from the start.
Nathan writes: Hello Al,
Disney loyalists know that the new park is a pathetic, budgeteered
mess. What impressions are you getting, however, from the general
public (annual passholders in this weekends case) regarding the
quality of California Adventure? Is the general public smart enough,
in your opinion, to see that the new park is horrible and cheap?
Negative reactions from this group is the only way things will
change, don't you think? Do you think the park will operationally be
a disaster once it opens up for everyone? Personally I'm hoping that
it's so bad that it causes Light Magic to look like an oasis of
calm. That's the best thing that could happen to the company, and a
good way for Disney to get some much needed bad press on this matter.
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As disappointed as I am with some of this park Shaun and Nathan -
I do hope they don't have that major a flop on their hands. Now why
would I say that?
Because if DCA does tank, guess which park's future gets put on a
back burner to fix it?
More than one person I know at Imagineering has said that DCA has
the potential to be the "heroin baby grafted onto Disneyland's
back." Ouch. If it fails, we don't get anything new or fixed at
Disneyland at all.
That's what is really painful to contemplate.
I don't think the public will see DCA as cheap, they will most
likely complain about long lines (due to reduced capacity) and a
lack of things to do (due to fewer attractions). That will
particularly be fueled by charging the same price as Disneyland for
it.
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Joey writes: I loved your DCA
walk-through, it was great! Don't ever lose the sarcasm, it's one of
the most entertaining parts of your unique writing style. If I want
pure information, I'll read the paper (then again there is no paper
that is as good as MousePlanet!).
Also your comments are genius! They are
hilarious, and some are REALLY good, it's too bad there wasn't so
much downsizing at WDI, cause you could do a lot of good there! You
should really consider writing a book (I am sure you have), you have
billions of bits of information stored in your brain about
Disneyland, and plenty of contacts. It would do great.!!:)
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Oh stop it, please! ;) As far as a book, I think
fellow MousePlaneteer David Koenig is the real author around here, I
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"RF" writes: You're
an idiot.. Do you have a slanted view of life on everything? Don't
compare DCA to Disneyland, they are two SEPARATE parks... Nothing
the same. Your hard-on for screwing with Eisner and Pressler is
old.. Give it up!
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Balance is nice isn't it? ;)
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the biggest headache here. By pricing them the same, well people are
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Mike writes: I wanted to first of
all thank you for being an invaluable resource on one of my favorite
places in the world. A group of my family and friends make an annual
trek to Disneyland each summer. The last couple of years (since we
discovered you) you have been a regular part of our trip
preparation.
This year we were looking forward to a trip
of approximately 5 days to check out the new park (and the old one
too). Due to some unusual circumstances we will probably be limited
to going over one of the 3 day weekends (probably Labor Day
weekend). I was wondering if you or your team might have some
suggestions for those of us with limited time to maximize our
enjoyment of both parks. Thanks again and keep up the good work
Cathy writes: How are the recent
power shortages affecting Disneyland? Will rides be shut down ?
shorter hours? My family and I will be there in 10 days.
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Mike - Get to the parks at opening - and ride the major
attractions in the first hour (Disneyland) or half hour (DCA) that
they are open. Any big ones you miss, then get Fastpasses for. Save
the middle of your day, and beginning of your evening for the
smaller stuff, and the movie type of attractions.
Cathy - Don't worry about the power too much, Anaheim has its own
generating plant (the better to profit from Disney with). Only in
the most severe emergency will they possibly have to be blacked out
- and even then the governor has indicated Theme Parks may be immune
due to the safety issues involved.
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Chip writes: First of all,
MousePlanet.com is GREAT. You all give the true inside to the Disney
empire and unlike other comments, I DO like all the PERSONAL
comments made. How else can we get the full picture of what is going
on.
As to DCA.... I was at the opening day of WDW Animal Kingdom and
true some things did not work or did need a fix... that park overall
is GREAT and WDI did a great job in it's concept and design, even
though the public was not 100% ready to UNDERSTAND a park of it's
type, but over the past two years it has become a favorite park with
Great Shows (I'm a theatre person so shows add a lot for me!!).
Sounds like DCA is not only an unusual theme to follow DL, but has
NO theme. Lets just put a carnival and a lot of shops in a parking
lot and put a gate around it.... sounds like a touring
carnival..."where are the bunk trailers and porta pottys"....
OK that might be a bit much. It's sad to see all the BAD ideas /
changes in the Disney company in the past few years, in all the
parks. Some of the "improvements..??" in rides /
attractions in Orlando have been MAJOR DUDS! (Bring back FIGMENT!!)
Disneyland is the staple park for all parks... I like that it is
'old school' with new things. Some of the 'old' rides will always be
tops on my list, and I would still ride the Skyway cable cars or
Carousel of Progress if some one with a "vision...?" had
left them alone. Sure, make technology improvements to keep up with
the times, bit keep the history there also.
Disneyland is the most quoted 'park' in then world, and for good
reason. DCA is the total joke of the Disney parks and I feel from
what I read on all the sites, that no matter how many new and fun
things WDI adds to DCA... it's not going to change and will bring DL
down to it's level. I hope I'm wrong... to bad DCA could not of been
overseas so it would 'go away' like other bad ideas.
MOUSEPLANET...and AL... keep us
informed!!!!! .
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Thanks for the kind note Chip. Loved you comment about Disneyland
being the most "quoted" park in the world, that is a very
astute observation.
Too bad they seem to have been loathe to quote it just across the
way there... ;)
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"M" writes: Hi Al, I've
really enjoyed following the development of DCA on your site! It
seems like just yesterday I was parking my car in the Donald Duck
preferred section only a few feet from the turnstiles! As I cannot
wait to get into the park myself, I've consumed every morsel of
information y'all offer.
The piece by Adrienne Vincent-Phoenix was particularly interesting
to me. So far its the only review of the Rapids Ride that I've
discovered. I've worked the "Shipwreck Rapids" ride at Sea
World [and] I was pleased to see her appreciation of the disabled
loading procedures at DCA's version.
I'd like to note that Shipwreck has been
using the exact same procedure since opening day in May of '99. The
people working the ride very proud of the procedure and how well it
works. I'm sure they are happy to see other parks implementing
similar methods. [They] get many appreciative comments from special
needs guests thanking [them] for allowing them the time they need to
comfortably, and most importantly, safely embark and disembark the
vessels at a stationary dock built solely for that purpose.
Although non-disabled guests may claim an
unfair advantage to the disabled guest, in reality this procedure
cuts wait times since regular loading on the platform commences
uninterrupted simultaneous to the disabled loading.
I'm sure the "other two local
parks" being referred to are Knott's and Magic Mountain, and
I'm sure most readers will make this assumption...as they are truly
more local to the LA area than Sea World is way down here and they
are not generally thought of as a rides park, but clarification
might be nice. :-)
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"M" thank you for the note! I had to disguise you a
little bit there, and hope you don't mind. :) Glad to hear about the
compliments for the Sea World version.
Adrienne Vincent-Phoenix and Tony Phoenix have worked very had on
our disabled information section, and are also quite active in
assisting the parks where they can in helping them get up to code.
When we started MousePlanet we all felt this kind of thing was
important to follow up on.
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Gordon writes: Hi Al, It's been a
while... Today (Sunday the 21st) was supposedly the 3rd of 4 special
preview days at DCA for Disney employees. I know I'm naive, but I
thought it really was only for Disney employees. Silly me! The place
was jammed -- at least to capacity of 30,000 -- many of whom were
clearly NOT employees. So I think I got a pretty good taste of what
the place is going to be like on
"normal" days.
Interestingly enough, for most of the day
it didn't feel too crowded in most of the park. What was
astonishingly crowded however was just trying to park. It took the
usual 30 to 40 minutes or so to drive from Pasadena to the park. And
another 30 to 40 minutes to get across the new bridge to the point
where you pay your money to the hapless person working in the
garage.
I say hapless because with all these cars
trying to get to the same place from every direction possible (and
probably 5 to 10 thousand extra cars in the mix) they still only had
one worker per kiosk (instead of 2). If you were there you know how
incredibly slow the whole process was. So slow that one poor guy's
car started spewing white smoke. As a friend said, "That is
soooo Disney!"
I should say that the Soarin' ride is
incredible and the Redwood Creek area is lots of fun as well -- and
it doesn't close early like Tom Sawyer's Island. The food is good
and contrary to your rather sarcastic notes about the tortilla
display, that was enjoyable, too.
I will agree that it doesn't appear as if
it'll get the repeat business of Disneyland. Certainly not from
locals... But then, you never know. Disney is still Disney -- for
now.
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That's the problem Gordon, will people have special memories of
this park like they do of Disneyland. That is what brings people
back.
I simply cannot imagine the tortilla making or bread baking to be
all that special to people that they would return to see it.
But I did promise to stop complaining if they changed the
designations for these from "attractions" to
"exhibits" - then that would at least be truth in
advertising.
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Christine writes: I LOVE your site!
I stumbled upon it a couple of months ago and read it every day!!!!
I wanted to ask you a couple of questions if you don't mind though,
if you don't have time to answer me I totally understand and will
love your site all the same!!
I have been saving for nearly 3 years for a
trip to Disneyland for my family and my sisters family. There will
be 7 of us and all told I have put $10,000 into the trip (including
my meal budget) This has been a major project and I have really made
an effort to scrape together the funds for this trip.
We will be staying at the new Grand
Californian Hotel for 8 days and 7 nights ( Feb. 12-19) and have
rented a mini van and bought 6 day flex hopper passes. We are coming
from Oregon and Washington. I have made my reservations for
character meals and even paid the extra for the rooms with the park
view.
After faithfully reading your page daily I
am slowly beginning to panic about the week we chose to be there.
This was the only time with all our schedules and I did want to see
the new park but I am afraid our dream vacation may be a disaster
because of the crowds. Is there any advice you can give me to make
our dream come true? We are all so excited, My husband and I have
been to Disneyland about 4 times each in our lives but my sister and
her family have never been and I want it to be the best.
Is Presidents weekend a nightmare? (I
hadn't realized we would be there on that weekend until I read your
new update today) It is also my husbands birthday while we are
there.
Should we stay away on the weekend days and
go at night only? I appreciate your site so much! I even bought the
"Nickel Tour" book (which I am halfway through, it's
great!!) and the new "Mouse Under Glass" book from your
gift shop!
Thanks again for taking the time to read my
email and have a great week!
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Christine, first of all don't panic. It will be crowded, BUT my
guess is that most of the crowds will be at the new park, leaving
Disneyland a little less hectic.
My suggestion would be the same as I said to another reader just
above - get to DCA early and plan to do the major attractions at
that time. You'll be lucky that since you are staying at the Grand
Californian, you will get early access to the new park, it comes
with your room there.
Your husband will have a wonderful birthday is my guess - just
plan carefully (like you already have) and you'll be fine. Watch for
further updates from the site here before your trip too, just in
case things change.
And thank you for supporting the site with your purchases, it
means a lot to us. :)
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Larry offers his own review: I have
seen the promised land... and it's not as promised.
I've been to "Disney's California
Adventure" four times. I keep going back looking for the
adventure that is California, but I can't quite seem to find it. I'm
afraid, as Gertrude Stein said about Oakland, "There's no
there, there."
Most of the architecture is very good, the
landscaping is wonderful, the background music, which is EVERYWHERE,
is good. The restaurants and snack stands range from adequate to
excellent, all are pricey, and most are exposed to the weather. The
souvenir stands are clever but nothing to get too excited about.
Here and there are attempts to be edgy and / or cutting edge, such
as in the daily parade and the woody- type station wagon that pulls
a small jazzy pop combo around (resonates with some people, but to
me it looks like pandering).
The daily stage show that premiered the big
"Hyperion Theater" and was to be presented many times
daily, forever, came and went very quickly, I didn't get to see it.
The problem with the whole park seems to be that ideas are
half-done, not quite carried out, especially the non-revenue
generating parts, that is to say, the rides.
There are a few highlights such as "Soaring Over California',
which is a marvel, the two 3-D movies are fun, the movie about the
cultural history of California " Golden Dreams" is very
well done. The raft ride careens and spins along very swiftly
through its rapids, the last big drop is fun and wet. There is one
ride in the Hollywood area, 'Superstar Limo" that is stunning
... in how bad it is. It looks like it cost about $500.00 to build
and is non-entertaining as possible, because, in the end, it is just
hype for Disney-related celebrities. This limo ride, it's not an
"attraction", summarizes the whole park: the parts that
generate income are all in place, the parts that don't, aren't.
I haven't been on the roller-coaster, when
I do build up the courage to ride, it breaks down. I'll admit that
I'm a bit snobbish, but the carnival rides are just carnival rides,
they are not what I hope to get from a Disney-related theme park.
I try to remember that Disneyland was the
dream of a wonderful showman and story-teller who put every dollar
he could scare-up into his dream, and that California Adventure is
the investment strategy of a mega-conglomerate, but STILL the park
is a disappointment.
So in the end there are 4 movies, including
Soaring Over California, carnival rides ( you go up, you go down,
or, you spin around and around , end of story), a raft ride, and a
Limousine ride that the city of Anaheim should shut down as a public
nuisance.
I'm sorry this a negative report. I admit
my prejudices: I want more than carnival rides, I don't care much
for pop music, I don't watch television enough to know whom Disney
is hyping currently.
However, to me, it's a bright and cheery false start.
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If you only knew Larry just how many times I heard much of that
very same sentiment from the people around me on my visits. Listen
and learn.
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Angie writes: Al, I just wanted to
thank-you for your updates. Being from Ohio we only get to
Disneyland once a year. But we spend all year looking forward to
those nine days we will spend in what is heaven to me.
I get on MousePlanet everyday because it
makes me feel closer to the park. It's also so nice to hear from
other people who want the parks run the way Mr. Walt Disney would
and did run Disneyland!!
The greediness I've seen lately in this
company makes me sick and I just hope eventually they don't lose
that Disney Magic that has brought my family and I so much
happiness.
Well I just wanted to give a little piece
of my mind and tell you to keep the updates coming, they really do
make my day and help me to feel closer to my favorite place in the
whole world!!!!!
P.S. The DCA updates have been AWESOME, I
won't be there till September but I'm already counting the days
down!!!!!!
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Thanks Angie - everyone at MousePlanet appreciates your kind
remarks - makes our days.
Let us know after your visit in September what you think of the
new park, we'd be very interested.
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"B" writes: I just got
back from my employee preview day at DCA. I think I liked it more
than you. Once my silver pass allows me to get for free I may be
spending some of my Disneyland time over in the Paradise Pier area.
Hey, it looks good at night!
A couple of notes. While in the farm area,
I noticed lots of orange trees, many with ripe oranges almost within
reach. Heck, I was almost tempted to take a sample, but resisted. I
saw others make tentative reaches, then decide not to risk it. On
hot days, you can be sure the trees will be stripped. But the other
thing I noticed here was the distinct smell of diazinon - a
dangerous insecticide (It's Tough To Be A Bug, you know!). You know
darn well some kids will eventually be sampling the plants and could
get sick if they take in too much poison. I may be wrong about the
diazinon. Maybe it's just part of the theming, like the smells in
Soarin'. But it's something to look into.
My one big disappointment was with the Sun Wheel Ferris Wheel.
Usually a Ferris Wheel will load all gondola cars then send you on
several uninterrupted spins around. This would be a real blast in
the moving gondolas. Unfortunately, once loaded, the Wheel barely
creeped around about half a revolution before unloading us. Many
years ago I was on the similar Ferris Wheel at Coney Island and
remember it was thrilling, even a little scary. What's up with the
wimpy ride?.
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Let's see if we hear anything back from readers of the site about
the insecticide - that does concern me.
As far as the Sun Wheel, I found it so very smooth it was boring
to me too. The whole Paradise Pier area suffered from that to me...
as I joked before, it seems to be the first thrill park you can take
your Mom to. I don't know how good that really is though!
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Tom writes: Hey Al! How are things
going? I have just finished reading part three of your DCA editorial
and for the first time I have to say I am not enjoying it. Please
don't take this as a flame, I am just here to point out my thoughts
on the park and your writings.
I feel that you are comparing DCA to
Disneyland. That is like comparing Apples and Oranges (no not orange
Stingers). Disneyland is a one of a kind, yes I know that some of it
has suffered over the past years but it is still Disneyland! DCA is
something totally different, an entity on its own. Give it a chance,
So much was said about Animal Kingdom prior to its opening, and I
may be wrong, but I thought there was some things said about Paris
too, but look at them, DCA will get there, just a little slower.
I arrived at the park at about 3, on
Saturday without a parking problem. Yes, I parked in 7F of Daisy but
hey, I got a spot! I then proceeded to tour the park and take many
pictures (95 total for my visit) The Hollywood Studio was nicely
done in theming and I loved the theming in Muppets, yes the preshow
was better then the actually show but they all can't be winners,
aye? Super Star Limo Big Dud!!! 'nough said. Other then that it was
great :-) I can see Armageddon and Twilight Zone going in there, I
think once built up in phase two, it will be the best part of DCA.
I loved the parade. It was very
UN-Disneyland. Yes, I thought of Marde Gras and Lion King parades
but it was LA. The floats were so Rose parade that it worked. The
music was so different that I want a copy. It was fast moving and
catchy! The dancers and jumpers (those guys on springs) I thought
were a great addition. Not all parades need to have a story or
theme, The Rose Parade doesn't, so this was just like it. AS for
being trapped, I watched the parade from Hollywood Area and still
was able to cross the park and watch it again before it was done. I
feel that enough detours and crossings were built, the streets wide
enough to sit in the street to have a walk way behind the viewing
area that one can move to other areas of the Park, DCA was built for
a parade. I would like to see MSEP run there, but it would have to
be the renamed though.
As for Paradise Pier, I still think that
Space Mountain is the best DL coaster, but Screamin is a close
second. It was fast and enjoyable. So what if you can see out of the
park, that gives you an extra feeling of being at a Pier, being able
to see the outside. The theming is only a little sparse. A carnival
atmosphere always is compact and lacks theming, which this area is.
I felt like I was down the midway.
The thought of the winery is just wrong!
Alcohol in a Disney park is stupid and bad. But I will say is was
nicely done. Grizzly Peak is the best water rapids ride I have been
on. The theming is fine for its area and the idea of being on a
camping trip. My complaint and that of the people in my raft was
that the rock did look like a wolf. So fix that.
I know that there are many shops and
restaurants that it is ridiculous but I believe after phase 2 the
amount of attractions will be bigger. It easier to put those in
first and build around. A show building can be placed at a distance
and queued out like Indy and Pirates. Which is what will happen with
Armageddon and Twilight Zone. After Phase 2 I think a berm will have
grown. The park is not even open yet, the suits and CM's will see
the little things as time goes by and fix them (like the fence at
the beginning of Screamin') Let the park open and get through its
first year then we can complain.
Right now I feel that admission should be
at 30 dollars and that it will eventually be up to the same
standards that we are used to at a Disney resort. DCA is definitely
not AP material right now.
Thanks Al for listening. I am looking
forward to the rest of your work. I think that all of you and
Mouseplanet are doing a great job.)
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Thank YOU Tom for your review. MousePlanet is a home
for all viewpoints - and I found many of your observations quite
interesting!
We will have to disagree on one thing, you think the park is
worth about $30 as it now stands, I feel $20 is closer to it. But we
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Todd and Leslie write: Hello
Al! We have been enjoying your reviews of DCA, and rereading your
comments after we just got back from previewing the park. Your
comments have been dead on!
The thing we noticed was the lack of Disney
"theming." There were only a few characters: Flik, near
"It's Tough To be a Bug;" (very fitting) and Cruella DeVil
and two characters from "The Emperor's New Groove" in the
Hollywood area. Are there going to be more?
They sell plush Pooh and Friends dressed as
Forest Rangers in the gift shops, but we didn't see any evidence
they had characters to match. What about Farmer Mickey? Or Minnie in
her bathing costume for Paradise Pier? (There is a lot of space in
front of the wall that has the the travel posters. Great for photo
ops).
People who go to Disney parks expect
quality, and frankly, you have to "spend money to make
money."
P.S. We wanted to run screaming from
"Celebrity Limo!"
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Craig writes: To Al: To begin, I
enjoy your site, and have followed your comments on the new park
with interest and pleasure. You do have some valid points concerning
the new park. However, having now visited the park, I have come to
the conclusion that it basically works, although only if they really
limit attendance, a big if when it comes to Disney.
I even found Paradise Pier much more
visually interesting and entertaining than you did, especially at
night. It is lacking in more original 1920's and 1930's rides and
great sea-side themed dark rides (How about a musical, 1920's themed
dark ride themed to Southern California and its disasters--Busby
Berkely meets Earthquake? I would ride that!), but I found the Sun
Wheel and the rollercoaster to be much better rides than I think you
give them credit for being. The cars on the Ferris Wheel that move
really do disorient you, although the ride should really go through
more than one revolution.
I think you totally underestimate the
roller coaster, which is way more frightening than the Knott's
coaster. It is a very nice ride, especially given its soundtrack. I
do think though that the Disney designers lacked the funds to create
the architectural eye-candy of a Dreamland or Luna Park, my two
favorite sea-side parks that I have never visited except in my
dreams. But the foundation is there, if they can only keep plussing
the area.
As to the food exhibits, I agree that they should be called
exhibits, but I liked them, and would have liked more. Where is the
Ghiradelli Chocolate Tour? I especially liked the humor of the
bread-baking tour. I thought the tortilla tour needed some better
pre-show or show at all, but hey, who doesn't like a free tortilla,
especially in a Disney park where nothing is free. I also really
enjoyed the Whoopi film, Bugs Life, and the Muppets, and went on the
Muppets twice. Then again, I haven't been to Florida, and I love the
Muppets dearly.
The only horrible weaknesses in the park,
in my opinion, are the Superstar Limo ride, the lack of things for
small kids to do, the so-called San Francisco area (they should tear
it down and begin again--the ride and theming possibilities are
great, and they need something with hills in the back of the park to
hide the views of the Convention Center, plus when people think of
California, they think as much of San Francisco as of Hollywood or
the Beach--this should really be the first major new land in the
park!), and the lack of a major dark ride ala Pirates.
If they were to put another couple of
hundred million into the park, I really think it would be a great
success. As it stands now, I enjoyed it as much as Universal, if not
nearly as much as Disneyland. I might be tempted to go once a year
though! Anyway, thanks again for your comments, even those I
disagree with. You should rethink your comments about the tameness
of the coaster though!.
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Craig, thank you for the kind comments and the great
review. I did ride the coaster a second time, and still think it was
awfully tame.
It's too bad though they couldn't have put in that couple of
hundred million in now though - after all, it's not like the park
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Steve writes: Al, amazing job. Of
course, it all makes me sad, because I badly want to take my
daughter to Disneyland this year (I was even considering buying an
Annual Pass again), but it looks like both parks are going to be too
crowded, too expensive, and frankly, too dangerous to visit this
year. Thank you so much for your efforts. They are very much
appreciated by many people that never get the chance to write.
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You may want to try a visit after the end of the
summer Steve, then you won't have to deal with the crowds then.
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Ty writes: Just wanted to let you
know that when I was at DCA the lockers in the grizzly area were
free for the first 2 hours and anytime after had certain prices. I'm
not sure if this will continue for too long because it might start
to get abused.
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Thanks for that Ty, and I did confirm what you found
out. I think that's an excellent way to let riders keep their
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Dan writes: I am a bit puzzled
here... a theme running throughout your review of the new park talks
about how you never really "escape" the outside world in
the new park like at Disneyland (and I almost certainly agree -
there's no magic in this new park), and you make the comment that
cel phones don't work well in Disneyland, Downtown Disney, or the
Californian and perhaps they will fix that....
Come on now - I think that's great. There's
nothing that pisses me off more than to see someone in line at
Disneyland using their cel phone. That total blows the whole
"escape" thing for me and it certainly doesn't help them
"escape" either ... can't people unattach themselves for
just a day? I think besides the brains that guests seems to check in
at the main gate, they should check the cel phones in as well and
concentrate on spending the quality time with those they have come
into the place with.
Just my thoughts.
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Depends on how the cell phone is used Dan. If someone
is talking business loudly while in line with you, or over at the
next table in the Blue Bayou, I couldn't agree with you more.
But for me, my cell phone use at Disneyland is mostly a quick
"where are you" so as to find out where the fellow
MousePlaneteers are so I can meet up with them. We couldn't have
done all the work we've done up to now without the cells, they were
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Mike writes: Al, I have enjoyed your
DIG updates and articles for the past few years, but you really seem
hell-bent on bad mouthing DCA. I was not crazy about the concept or
the planned "attractions" but after spending all day
yesterday in the park, I can happily admit that my concerns were
unfounded. The park is amazing for what it is, and the promise of
more things to come only makes me happier that it's one of my home
parks.
You seem to leave out a whole lot of details in your rants against
DCA. For example, most of Disneyland incorporates "off the
shelf" ride systems. WED did not design the Matterhorn, Arrow
did, but California Screamin' is a loser because it wasn't
designed/built by Imagineering? That's BS! Cal Screamin' was
designed by Werner Stengel who is probably the most revered of
coaster designers today. It was built by Intamin who definitely is
the most respected and desired builder of steel coasters. Dumbo is
one of DL's most popular rides, but that is a carnival ride. Most of
Disneyland is carnival-like. Because that's what Walt loved -- he
only wanted a place of his own to live up to his higher standards of
service and cleanliness.
You like to show pictures of things not
meeting your standards but you neglect to mention the wonderful
attention to detail in DCA like the beach shower / water fountains
and the wide and themed walkways throughout the park. And, not
everyone has to be themed with animatronics, you know. The lack of
animatronics on GRR or the lack of themeing on CS does not detract
from the ride or the enjoyment. Even without a berm, I never one
noticed a thing outside the horizon of DCA. That's a testament to
the work that Imagineering did.
I think that DCA is the best first effort in a new park that Disney
has ever produced stateside. You can change your mindset and think
about it that way, you know. If you do, you'll realize that a few
other attractions will make it one of Disney's best parks. If they
add a TZ:TOT and a R&RC then it immediately becomes my 2nd
favorite Disney park.
Admitting that DCA is a good park and that it has a bright future is
not tantamount to admitting Pressler & Eisner are good at what
they do. I place on the success of what I experienced solely on the
shoulders of Imagineering. I still think Eisner is not whole without
Mr. Wells and I think Pressler is the wrong guy for his job. But, I
like DCA.!
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I wish I could agree with you, but we see different
things in that place. My biggest criticism remains that they did
first class work on the shops and restaurants, and seemingly have
forgotten the attractions.
And the coaster, well even with that pedigree it didn't make it
all that much more exciting for me. Space Mountain still beats it
hands down. The good thing is we can agree to disagree, and I'm glad
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Ken writes: I really enjoyed your
series about DCA. I was very surprised about your description of the
Golden Dreams movie. It sounds like a real downer with Rodney King,
Harvey Milk, someone getting killed, etc. I don't go to Disneyland
to relive unpleasant real world experiences. I go to escape the real
world. I expected an uplifting movie about the California Dream even
if that dream is not truly reality.
We took our kids to Disneyland about a year
ago (when they were 3) and we will probably go again next year when
they are 5, but after that I think that with the current management,
WDW offers much more than Anaheim ever can for a family vacation.
With limited space, they need to try and pack in more high quality
rides and experiences if they want people to go for multi-day
vacations. Wasting space on carnival games that cost $2 is
ridiculous.
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The moments you refer to do go by quickly in the movie, but as
you felt, I kind of thought they were out of place here too.
Let's hope they listen to what the customers are saying.
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Angie writes: Al, This is some of
the best writing you have ever done. I can't thank-you enough for
this series. Please keep it coming, I look forward everyday to
reading your columns. I can't express how much your insight into
Disneyland (I guess now The Disneyland Resort) is appreciated!!
Thanks Again!!!
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Thanks Angie - that was very kind of you.
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Steve writes: Thanks for your great
series, which was right on target about everything (down to the
detail of pot smoking being the only reason to ride the Sun Wheel)
By the way, when we rode it, the glorified Ferris wheel never just
went around a few times after loading in order to take advantage of
the movement of inside track cars. It simply remained in lode mode
the entire time, and I suspect may remain this way due to low
capacity and long lines (kids really wanting to get high, I guess).
It's actually quite bizarre how nicely themed the Grizzly Peak and
environs are detailed when compared to the rest of the park (which
is strictly on a Sea World- Universal- Six Flags level). Your theory
that it's because of the adjacent hotel is interesting and
justifiably cynical.
All in all, I think the title of your series, "Half Park, Full
Price" was actually a little too generous. The place basically
sucks (only one attraction, "Soarin' Over California,"
being the exception in my opinion), and I hope the public soon
realizes this and votes with its collective feet. If they don't
reduce the price (doubtful since it would be an admission of poor
quality), I can hardly see how visitors confronted with Disneyland
on one side and Cal Adventures on the other would ever choose a
return visit to the new park.
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A quick note about my Sun Wheel "toke"
comments - a few readers sent in notes concerned I may have been too
lighthearted in my comments, or was advocating any kind of drug use.
After having worked a good deal of my life in the music business
(where I saw a lot of careers lost due to it), and just last year
having lost someone in my life to drug and alcohol abuse, I
seriously would be the last person to endorse it.
The reason I did mention it is because it will heighten awareness
of what is going on. Lots of times folks shoot the messenger, when
all he wanted to do is tell you what to look out for. ;)
Thanks for the note Steve, I like the raft ride too along with
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The above was just a
sampling of the reader response I got - if you would like to read more, let
me know and if enough folks respond we'll do a part two on this
section.
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Part
One - Entering the park and the Hollywood Backlot area
Part
Two - Middling, i.e. Condor flats, the farm, and wharf areas
Part
Three - Paradise Pier carnival area
Part
Four - The Whoopi movie, Raft ride and other details such as parking, the
hotel and mall
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Readers Respond!
Take
a photo tour of the park
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