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MousePlanet Mailbag for December 2, 2004
1. Yes, Brian is still considered adjunct staff. He contributes photos and the occasional article.
2. I'm not sure when I'll have time to put up another report. Between my weekly Walt Disney World Park Update schedule and my World View schedule (not to mention Real Life), it's been hard to write them up. I keep trying to find time, but I think that the best that I'll be able to do in the next few months will be to write up an article about MouseFest. Will you be there?
Hi Chris If you're asking about MousePlanet, we generally do not have any summer openings. If you're asking about Walt Disney World, I'd recommend checking out Disney's careers Web site (link) for more information.
Stan Schwarz writes:
Hi Stan At this point, there are no solid plans to replace Wonders of Life with anything. That's another sad part of the story. There are, of course, rumors; however, nothing is greenlighted yet. Of course, the pavilion is running daily, for cast member events, conventions and plant care. Go figure.
Vivian Henderson writes:
Hi Vivian You're not the first to ask me about this particular rumor. However, I haven't come across anything documenting a foray into Louisiana by Walt Disney. Louisiana may have been one of the spots that one of his scouts had looked at, but I haven't seen any documentation of formal negotiations. That doesn't mean that it didn't happen or that there is no such documentation, just that I haven't seen any.
Paul Martens writes:
Hi Paul Nice pics. I've enjoyed the stuff that you've posted over at WDWMagic.
I'm not sure that a Master Blaster slide would require any special track. From their home page, it looks like they have enclosed tubes and open slides with a protective netting to keep riders from trying to jump out. There are probably a few special pieces of track to allow for the water blasters to push the riders along, but they'll probably be a small fraction of the overall track. I can't wait to see what kind of progress they make before I get down there for MouseFest (which incidentally is the weekend that Blizzard Beach will open back up and Typhoon Lagoon will begin its own seasonal close, which should allow the pace of construction to increase).
Daniel Paci writes:
Hi Daniel You know, I have absolutely no idea why they haven't done anything yet. They're usually so gung-ho to remove any references to non-renewing sponsors, especially when there's a new sponsor in the same industry. I guess that the fact that Hess didn't want to sponsor the pavilion played a big part in it. After all, Nestle paid big bucks to renovate The Land pavilion when it took over from Kraft.
With the Energy pavilion going sponsorless, it may just be that Disney doesn't want to spend the money to redo the attraction. (As I recall, Exxon/Mobil was an integral part of the closing film, which would require a major reworking to remove them.) I keep expecting them to take care of it, but they seem happy to continue to give free advertising to Exxon/Mobil. We'll have to wait to see what happens.
Seph Bernados writes:
Hi Seph Thanks for your kind words. I'll pass them along to Paul, as well.
I'm not sure whether it'll be possible to do the rest of Beastlie Kingdomme, but I'll see what info is available. I'm hoping to find out some more about other attractions that didn't make it, but I can't promise anything right now. (Also remember that many cancelled attractions never made it as far as Dragon Tower did.)
Seph writes back:
Seph Yep, I'm also working on History of the World. I'm glad that you're enjoying it.
As for the rumors, there are many, many rumors about stuff being built in the Magic Kingdom (and other parks, for that matter). Many of them are seriously being worked on, but in blue sky mode. In other words, there's nothing concrete happening yet. As far as I know, there is nothing that has been greenlighted for Magic Kingdom that hasn't been announced yet. There's supposedly a heated competition between ideas for the former 20,000 Leagues lagoon area, but nothing's been selected yet. So until something's announced to take the place of the meet-and-greet that will be there when the area opens in November, we'll have to wait and see.
DisneySea in Florida? Don't look for any announcement of a new park in Florida for at least a few years. They need to work on the parks that they already have open before they think about putting in a new park. They'd also have to figure out some way to draw in new people with a park without cannibalizing attendance from the existing parks. Otherwise, there's no money in a new park.
David O. writes:
Hi David As far as I know, budget was the only reason that Beastlie Kingdomme was shelved. My understanding is that with WDW pouring money into the Disney-MGM Studios to increase park capacity, they decided that they needed to cut some funding from Disney's Animal Kingdom to save money. Beastlie Kingdomme was officially pushed back to a later phase of the project (remember that Asia was completed after the park opened, as well), but with the unexpected runaway success of Festival of the Lion King, the temporary placeholder land of Camp Minnie-Mickey became permanent.
I do hope to bring more stories of rides that never were and/or backstories of rides that do exist to our readers in the future, but I can't promise what or when (though I can tell you that part 2 of the Dragon Tower story is currently scheduled to run on October 27).
Hi Ivan Thanks for your kind words. I'll pass your note along to Paul. Maelstrom is one of the possible topics for a next story by Paul, if I can coax it out of him.
Hi Sammy I'm glad that you enjoyed the story. I'll pass your note on to Paul for his enjoyment.
Hi Sean Thanks for your kind words. I'll pass them along to Paul so that he can enjoy them as well.
I'd love to be able to do a book on all of this some day. Some of the stories that Paul and George McGinnis have passed along are really great and I'd love for people to be able to read them. Maybe some day. Unfortunately, Paul's files of his artwork were misplaced, and we're not allowed to use Disney-copyrighted artwork without permission. If Paul's artwork ever surfaces, maybe we'll be able to publish some of it.
Glenn Vines writes:
Hi Glenn I'm not sure that Beastlie Kingdomme will be built, especially not in its original form. Festival of the Lion King is too popular to be removed right now. Also, with Expedition: Everest, mythical creatures have made their way into the other lands of the park. I think that it's a shame, but there's not much that can be done any more.
And yep, the dragon on the logo (which goes all the way back to when it was going to be called Disney's Wild Animal Kingdom) was indeed for the Beastlie Kingdomme land.
Glenn writes back:
Glenn George McGinnis told me that so many ideas died during the blue sky phase that the Imagineers got used to it. George quoted Marc Davis as saying, No good idea ever really dies at Imagineering. And it's true. If the idea is good, it may very well resurface at a later date. Sometimes, it takes decades, but ideas do return. That's why the Imagineering archives are so huge, and why there's so much warehouse space to store all of the old models. (Boy, would I love to get a tour through there one day!)
As to books on the history of the parks, I'll start with the easy one: Walt Disney World. For WDW history, check out the sidebar in my History of the World series here on the site. There are a lot of good books listed there, including some that have some Disneyland history. Others for Disneyland would include Disneyland: The Nickel Tour by Bruce Gordon and David Mumford, Walt Disney Imagineering: A Behind the Dreams Look at Making the Magic by the Imagineers, and Disneyland: Inside Story by Randy Bright. That should be enough to get you started.
Susan S. writes:
Hi Susan I would expect there are several reasons for not creating a multi-day parking pass. One of those would be money. A multi-day pass would be expected to carry a discount, and Disney wouldn't want to give up the revenue. Another reason would be that parking is already free for guests staying at the resort hotels and for annual passholders (which answers your last question). If you'd like to suggest the idea to them anyway, you can always write to Guest Communications. (Hey, you never know. They instituted the multi-day stroller and wheelchair rentals, maybe they'd consider doing the same for parking.) You can contact Guest Communications at firstname.lastname@example.org or at:
Hi Kathy I have no idea what the prices will be for MouseFest next year, or even what the overall setup for the event will be. Some changes are under discussion, but I don't know that anything will be nailed down until after this year's event, as Deb, Jennifer and Dave have their hands full running this thing. I believe that the committee to plan the event will probably grow for next year's event, and I believe that there will be more official travel agency options. At this point, I really can't give you any info beyond what's on the MouseFest web page. Just make sure that you're on the mailing list and keep checking for updates. Hope to see you there!
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